On Hitler, Part II
- solo1temp@gmail.com: He knew he was uninspired?
- murphyb@gmail.com: He never really tried hard to be an artist. He passed the first two tests so the potential to get into the school was there but failed at the final hurdle. Rather than being fuelled on by his first two successes he passed the following year in idleness, suggesting either a MASSIVE ego, or a latent understanding of his own uselessness
- murphyb@gmail.com: He also refused to tell anyone he failed the tests because it would be an external expression of a reality he knew but could hardly deal with
- solo1temp@gmail.com: Well that does suggest a certain sense of narcissistic sociopathy, yes.
- murphyb@gmail.com: His failure as a creative genius. He either thought he was amazing or thought he was the opposite and constantly had to prove himself, living on in the legacy his father had left him
- solo1temp@gmail.com: Well he's coming across as almost sympathetic there. Was he nothing more than a cauldron of influences beyond his control?
- murphyb@gmail.com: No he was the sole arbiter of his destiny, as we all are. But he was weak and allowed his surroundings to shape him to the point where he was no longer his own man but an empty shell, embodying ideologies as dry and lifeless as he had become
- murphyb@gmail.com: The more people fear they have nothing to say, the louder they become, grasping at straws.
- solo1temp@gmail.com: My father says that the empty vessel makes the most noise.
- murphyb@gmail.com: What Germany did in following such an empty vacuous ideology it has to constantly deal with itself
- solo1temp@gmail.com: Vergangenheitsbewaltigung
- murphyb@gmail.com: But Hitler was just a fool with an empty, hopeless dream, driven by hatred and a refusal to accept the reality of his situation as an untalented and unpromising lazy orphan
- solo1temp@gmail.com: I wouldn't vote for it but it seems to imply that 36% of Germany may have been in roughly the same mental place.
- murphyb@gmail.com: Lacking inspiration and imagination?
- solo1temp@gmail.com: Driven by hatred and a refusal to accept the reality of their situation, empty hopeless dreams.
- murphyb@gmail.com: Thats true. Perhaps he said everything they wanted him to say
- murphyb@gmail.com: That's interesting
- solo1temp@gmail.com: Perhaps he WAS them, in the only ways that were important
- murphyb@gmail.com: It's not something I think most Germans would choose to admit though.
- solo1temp@gmail.com: They wouldn't have to if they had a representative to do it for them.
- murphyb@gmail.com: That's true
- solo1temp@gmail.com: Like the Christians in America who sit back and let their leaders attack homosexuals, while being in utter denial in their home lives.
- solo1temp@gmail.com: Being all nice and polite.
- murphyb@gmail.com: Yes that's true
- solo1temp@gmail.com: If gays were rounded up and herded into pens, I'm pretty sure none of THOSE people would raise too much of a fuss.